Boycott of Septran Bus Co.

Havent you heard not gonna Happen Sue accepted new position with Sunrise.  

Another year gone by and another year of bulllcrap!  Come on Rockford office get it right, get rid of the dead weight in the OFFICE!

went to HR to complain about treetment.  horible.  dey didnt do nothen.  that lady Ivy is lazi betch.  git rid of  he

Having worked at the winfield office for some timei  I cant understand why the emplyees havent sat down with Teamster representative and attempt to begin an certification drive to jooin the union. Most employees feel the managemnt  treats most employees like s---. New Ops manager has no experience with spec ed students. Anazed that he has lasted this long. Vetting process must have been weakOps mge needs to quit smoking his electronic cigarette and ride with drivers to see what we are up against and lobby the SUITS in Warrenville to give as competitive  wage like the other unionized bus companies in the area get.E

Called this place to ask about W2 and got a run around. And anattitude when I said I was a former employee. I see Rockford's office has not changed at all.

The newspaper reported the truth that the contract was given to Sunrise Southwest, why would you delete that when we wrote about it to answer the question that was published before and left up.

So we hear you lost the contract, is this true????

We are pretty happy but we would like to know if we that have been with the company for a while do we get credit for the time we have worked for them and our pay correspond with that time worked or do we get shorted because new hire after their first raise will get more than the people that have been there for quite awhile. 

Sounds like these complainers all want to get rich on a part time job.

So what's the latest after the big buyout?   Are you drivers finally happy with the change in ownership?

 I red in an earlier post someone said National Express is not union but I checked out Durham a part of National Express is respresented by the Teamster union if that mean we can get resprented by them also, correct?

So you are going to make no effort to reach out to the new owners?  Just waiting on them to "screw" you?  Success is a two-way street.  If you see problems, work with new owners to fix it.  Don't take the victim approach.

We are going to wait and see how the new owner does whether they improve or screw us more.

This "boycott" is stupid. I see a lot of people complaining, but are offering no solutions. Instead of coming on here and complaining, talk with other drivers and the new uppers at Durham and fix it.

Most part time Jobs you get paid better and  treated  better. 

You all realize that being a driver at Septran is a part-time job right?  Part-time.  If you want to be treated better, you should act like an adult when you are in the office.  I was in a meeting with the old Ops Manager from Naperville (before he got smart and left) and every other word out of the drivers mouth was a swear word.  The poor guy tried talking to the driver but he was treated like a second hand citizen.  The driver ought to be ashamed of himself.  having a job is a privledge and not a right.

We do our job the best we can and were  not appreciated so don't tell us to to to put our big girl pants on they have been on and we have been doing great our job and you don't have a clue what we have put up with working for Krapf 

Will we get treated better will we get benifits will we get better wages or will we still get treated like we are 2nd class because of people in Naperville office or will it all be run out of Warrenville?

That is just the start of the questions, because we have a revolving door because of the way drivers are treated.

All of you are on here complaining about the same issues that happen at ANY job.  Just stop, it's old and you all seem very juvenile complaining about it instead of fixing yourselves to assist the management.  National Express IS NOT union.  They are a international company, with US branches and the home office is in the United Kingdom.  They don't have unions in the UK, so they wouldn't allow a union here.  Therefore, Durham is not union.  Krapf never wanted to sell Septran, but after so many times of being proposed to how could they turn it down?  This is better for us, our headquarters is now local in Warrenville instead of in Pennsylvania, which made it very hard to speak to people, I know this because I work in the Winfield office and could never get in touch with anyone out there.

Stop the griping and whining, put on your big girl and big boy pants and do your job.

Durham is owned by National Express and they are union maybe we will be too.

Who cares?   Septran lets clowns work here.  They get paid big bucks and do nothin.   Like WTF.  WHAT exactly does Greg do at wheeling?   I ALWAYS see em on his cell phone talking bout anything but work!  Her him tell someone that he has GREAT gig.  Doin whatever he want.  Such an f..in fool.

Well your world is about to change as Krapf sold Septran to National Express.  It could either work out very well for all of you or not.  My advice would be to listen to them and not shout out the first thing that comes into your head.  Treat everyone with the same level of respect that you expect.

Hopefully Sue B. is next.

What happened to the Ops Mngr they hired over the summer.  he lasted like 2 months before he left.  He seemed okay.

Get rid of the idiots we have In. Naperville and get some good management that won't stab us in the back.

Word is out Septran has been sold,  is this good or bad, time will tell. 

Why would they sell the company? They have to be making money. The drivers are one of the lowest paid in the school bus industry. I think the company started this rumor as a scare tactic. 

Why would they sell the company? They have to be making money. The drivers are one of the lowest paid in the school bus industry. I think the company started this rumor as a scare tactic. 

No it is not true it is people who want a union in trying to scare others into thinking their job might be at risk

Is this true?  Or just a rumor that Krapf is selling Septran?  I can't blame them....Septran is bleeding money.

Just a scare tactic to try and get the union.  They think people will believe anything!  Wonder what lie will come out next?  Just because it is on the internet does not make it true!!!!

If you had a Union contract it wouldn't matter who bought Septran. Protect yourself and organize before they sell.

Just another scare tactic to get you to do what they want!

Selling company to Durham.   Ever one will bee outta job.  Ben werki n hear fer 20 years.  Whad du I du now?

Why do you think Teachers, Fireman, and Police Officers belong to a union? It's not just about the money you get job security, respect, dignity, and a contract that the company can't change whenever they want. The reason the company is so against the workers forming a union is because they will have to negotiate a contract with you. In all honesty you are the Union.

You say you don't want a union and then in the next breath say you want to be treated equally and fair by management.  That is what a union contract does for you! I am a UNION school bus driver and my wages and working conditions are all in a contract between the company and my local and whenever they company goes against the contract the union goes after them.

Do you know how nice it is to be able to know what I will be making year to year?  I don't have to go in and beg for a measley few cent raise or have money taken away from me when the company is going through money issues.

If you want fair treatment you really should go union.

I know that the driver situtation drove awy the Ops Manager that was hired in Naperville in June.  He seemed like a good guy but he was always behind closed doors with drivers yelling and screaming at him.  I know because I could hear them yelling at him from the reception area.  He was a good guy who was trying to get things turned around but between the issues with the corporate management team at Septran not being responsive to his needs and drivers yelling at him all day for situtations that happened before he arrived, I don't blame the guy for leaving. 

Not encouraging Union just saying that you had your chance for one so you could be represented but you lost that chance last year. The people that were trying to get it have given up on the rest we work quietly not pushing it anymore. It would have been the way to get what you were seeking but now you are stuck with what you get because they don't have to do a thing except replace us when we don't agree with them so now we just agree and go along with what is ask of us. So good luck on trying to get changes.

Whoever you are that is encouraging the union, that is not what we are looking for we just want to be treated equally and fairly by the office management. 

Same old crap different year, you will never get the drivers to band together, they had a chance last year to get a union and everybody was scared to death to show that they wanted it. Now you have what you have put up with it because it won't get any better because you people won't band together.

So you agree Septran is not a good place to work?  And I don't believe any of the drivers expect anything on a silver platter, I believe we want to be treated equally. And not favoritivly. And we would really like it if the office staff quit talking about drivers. The walls have ears and we are listening. Seniority should also be considered when routes are being distributed.  If you don't like a driver or their behaviour then get rid of them, don't give them crappy routes in hopes they will quit.

"We need to ban together and take over that office, and run that place like a business should be ran."

Do you honestly think this will work?  So the drivers should attempt to undermine the office staff?  Do you take the phone calls from parents, teachers, school districs, or superintendents?  Where they are asking why a bus is late...again?  Why a driver is mean to their students?  There is so much more to running an office than dealing with drivers that want everything handed to them on a silver platter and not having to work. 

Look in the mirror before you start pointing fingers.  Work together with the office staff on a solution or Septran will never be a good place to work.

I agree with you, there is so much favoritism there it doesn't matter if you've been there for 5 years or 2  weeks if a route becomes available that will give the driver more hours they will just give it to the new drivers while the drivers with more seniority get routes that pay nothing! 

100% can someone please take over that office, that knows what they are doing.  The turn over rate there is out of control, they have lost about 5 employees. The manager there needs a reality check.  She needs to learn that the employees hate her and do everything in their power to sabatog her.  We need to ban together and take over that office, and run that place like a business should be ran.  

Well here it is 3 weeks into the new school year and the Rockford Septran office is still as messed up as it has been for the last 7 years!  No wonder they can't keep employees!  Ignorant people!

I stop by the office yesterday and found that I'm getting blamed for all this crap this is bull I read it and laugh but I don't comment I think sue is doing a great job and I told her so yesterday and I will be trying to find out who is posting these and me catching the blame.

Jim H

So easy to hide behind a computer and make all kinds of accusations.  Doesn't mean any of it is true.  Just saying

Drivers being sent to other locations one vehicle could be used to take all the drivers but we don't have people making smart enough decisions they use 3 Suburbans 3 times a gas don't you people know how to engage your brains?

Septran has so many newbies and still hurting for drivers they need to start paying 11 to 12 bucks an hour to get decent drivers. Also quit screwing over the drivers give out minor warnings for the minor stuff not you screwed up you're fired. Good luck we will see how this year goes. Be around Monday morning to see what new bull develops

Who ever came up with this full of bull if you aretalking about Howie. He is a devote family man and very well qualified for the job and he is Ed's nephew, so where did you come up with this bull#*##

It is really ironic that the guy who took Ed's position in the garage used to be the bosses lover. Was that position ever offered to any of the other mechanics or was it a lure to get him back as a lover?

People stay away from septran they will tell you what they think you need to hear to get you to work for them. They will not pay you a decent wage or give you benefits. It will work you almost 8 hours a day and call it part time so they don't have to give those benefits. If you do one thing wrong you won't be reprimanded he will be fired. So I repeat stay away from this company. I worked there for many many years and retired because of the way Krapft head turn the company n do something not worth working for.

Septran looking for drivers, do not work for this company they will lie to you, they do not pay decent wages and there are no benefits, they will work you almost 8 hours and call it part time.

Stay away from them

I have worked for this company for years and it use to be a great place to work for but now it is terrible place to work. They stab you in the back and what little we had for benifits were all taken away. I could not wait for the year to end and now I am gone. Anyone looking for a job stay away from Septran it is no longer a good place to work.

Well Septran can start to breathe easy the end of the school year is near and with all the problems they have had keeping drivers they can now try and get drivers for next year, but with their reputation they will have a very hrd time getting driver. They don't payworth a hoot, no benefits, part time which can add up to 7 3/4 hrs. You use to be able to use the vechile for some personal use not anymore, infact most of the benefits we use to have are gone, so good luck in getting drivers if you are aorund next year. Who knows some of you may have a new boss, time will tell on that too.

We all know route changes are part of the job but when you take kids off the bus and then relpace them with other kids but you have a half empty bus now and you still drive past the homes of the kids that they took off and you see these see theses kids being picked up by another bus that does not make common sense or smart business as I see it because you have plenty of room on your bus for these kids. Also  they have you run from one side of town to the other to pickup kids. They need to zone the kids and keep buses in that zone to pickup the kids. It would cut down on wasted gas consumsion, time, and excessive milage on the buses. It would just be smarter business practice but Krapf hasn't proven to be a practial business co. when it comes to running Septran.

Lets see if this stays or gets deleted.

To continue with on, office people get free gas there, but I've seen the payroll lady fill up her boyfriends car as well he is a driver, I've seen other drivers getting gas. we got drivers that smoke in there bus, but nothing happens to them. the wages are horrible all the other locations have a higher pay then Minnesota. There is way to much stuff to list, avoid this company at all costs. 

I have worked for Septran in Bloomington mm for the last 7 years, we have a dispatcher who bad mouths drivers and the terminal manager in grit of other drivers, we have racist drivers, one even has a confederate flag tattoo. There are dispatchers dating drivers, there is a dispatcher who is there milking the company for hours, staying there 6am till 730 pm and no one says anything. 

It use to be a good place to work then Krapf bought Septran since then it has gone from a great place to work to a s**t place to work all because of Krapf and lousy management,

I would not recommend working there , management is bad, pay sucks , they favor certain people and the manager is narcissistic , 

Yorkville you screwed up when you didn't vote do you need in you have nobody to protect you to speak up or you so now what are you going to do?

I work at the Septran location in Yorkville.  Granted we just had an accident last week, but other wise we have one of the best safety records.  Yes we are slightly underpaid, supposedly thats going to change.  We also have the ride along program so we can bring our children on the bus with us.

The problems I do have: They fired our boss, who was an amazing, nice, caring, woman, because of something she said on facebook which is bs.  

They tried a union here once, it was voted down and ruined many friendships....a union will NEVER get voted into the Yorkville terminal

the proof about the wages are in the hands of the proper people that need to handle it properly in the future when needed to be done..

This will probably be deleted but it won't make any difference as it has been emailed to everyone on the email list.

Because unwanted people were going to show up. Those people are blaming the wrong people for it being canceled.  They don't get their facts straight before accusing others of why it was done. 

Why did the union meeting get cancelled?

Again no detailed information on what location this is and or proof.  Just because someone says something does not make it true.  Everyone post all kinds of stuff on here with nothing to back it up.  They complain but no one is willing to do anything about it.  You people are a bunch of all talk no action, sounds like a bunch of employees that does not like their job but yet to afraid to do something about it.  Half probably don't even work there anymore.  If wages for a male are higher than for a female when it is same job and male was hired after female get an attorney that is illegal.  But for some reason you don't do that you post on this site.  If you go back through all the post sounds like some want union and are saying and doing things to get people fired up.  Maybe some people are too smart to fall for the tricks and lies.  I only say that because how far back this union talk is but yet nothing is done.  I just love this site it makes for good reading and good laughs.  Have a great day!

proof is easy to get, the male who is being paid more was hired two months AFTER certain females.

I certainly hope you have proof to back up that males are making more than females. If you got proof we should be able to file something.  Bring the proof foward so we can all see or this is just another false acusation.  What location? what type of vehicle? what is years of service? pay rate etc........ 

everyone that had a route at Summer dale got screwed students taken away hours lost. More krap from krap

It has been discovered that Septran are paying male drivers more      money  than female drivers that have been there longer and driving the same model vechile this is not fair.

I read the deleted post about Krapf hiring in Pa for up to $16.95 an hour. I have copied it and myself and friends are now PMing the message on facebook to other drivers at Septran so why ever you trying to keep drivers from finding out has failed over half the drivers have seen the post. ENWX

Septran is so short on people to work that even the safety man is running routes.

I see tha our comments were deleted about drivers loosing our buses because someone in the main office doesn't have the brains to correct the capacity on the buses instead of saying thatthey require a CDL license.

There aresome of us that like working with kids and no Septran isn't the best to work for but we will get things improved as soon as we get the union. The only is it will probably be short lived as we have heard that when the contract is up Krapf is done and that came from a good reliable source at 20.

If you don't like to work here why don't you quite. i used to work for septran and no its not the best place to work but its a job. If you are so down working for them do something about it and get another job. Oh thats right half of you are probable not qualify for anything but septran. Otherwise you wouldn't be complaining.

just learned today that the bonus time period has been changed from the begining of the month to the end of the month to dates that Krapf has set not notifing us, because of that change I have lost two months of bonus instead of one. This is unfair not to notifiy us that this was happening.

just wondering what happened to the post about the dad of the supervisor that was in the accident and didn't report to the immediate care office until after 4 o'clock p.m. And he was in the accident at about 11 a.m. It's not fair to everybody that he was able to go so late treat everyone equal

I do a back up just would like to know why there arew no AFRICAN AMERICANS working in the office we are qualified as well to answer the phone and do a back up route just like any one else and I guarantee a couple or more can't speak spanish

The Rockford office is going to the dumps the route changes is crazy they give out of town routes to people without even asking them if they want them where they do that at be courteous to your employers 

This person did a lot of work.  He was repondsbile for making certain it hit done. There will be a big hole of what gets done.

The person may have been there but did little if anything. Pushing work off on others and not doing there job. Blaming others and not taking responsibility for there own actions. Yelling at people , etc. So i would say you had your run and now you finally got caught up to.

A person has been told to retire or you be let go. Is this fair no, they have worked at Septran for almost half a century.

The person that hit the aide in the mouth was forcably removed from the bus yesterday by police and taken for observation.

The bus that the aide got fired from after getting hit in the mouth and receiving a chipped tooth and a bloody lip because she muttered a flul word, had to have three squad cars at the bus and remove that child. The child was taken for observation at a hospital for their behavior.

Septran don't you think you should offer the person an appology and offer them their job back?

I see you deleted the comment by the single black mother about how ba work is, why don't you want the truth out ?

This bull an aide gets hit in the mouth gets a bloody mouth and a chipped tooth, when she got hit she automatically uttered a couple of words, (G--damn) I would of said a lot more, but this is not a reason to fire a person that has a good work record.

People you see why we need a unon, to protect us from this bull. Sign the cards so we can get protection or you maybe next!!!

Septran is now having to have people go to other offices to work because they can't get help,

Start pay a decent wage and treatind people so badly so that they will want to stay.

Septran use to be a good place to work for Krapf bought it started taking benefits away that helped make it a good company to work and they helped make up for the lack of pay. We are under paid compared to Illinois Central and First Student or the school districts. The office door is like a revolving door so many people getting the axe for things that should of been a warning. They also have problems getting drivers because their reputation stinks and the wages are so low. Starting wage is $1.75- $2.00 below other companies. So Krap are you going to improve working conditions or do we seek UNION help?

Yes, Management here is a joke. This one can get away with this that one can't. They pick and choose who gets favors and who gets the shaft. Unless they need something ,then they pretend to care about you. I would say stay away if possible nice job but Management needs a wake up call.

Why do yo keep deletingthe message that we need a union are you connected with Septran. People have already quit because of the unfair conditions.

We ned desent wages w work hard for the kids but they are taking so much away from us we need good wages, please leave this up this is from drivers.

I was considering applying for a job with Septran. I think I should look elsewhere. Thank you for sharing this info and Good Luck to you all. 

Well this was deleted before we will post again.

we will see how many people get dumped because of the bad weather and the unavoidabe accidents that happened.

Have quite a few suppensions how many won't be back. We need a union to stand up for these people and we will get one.

The other thing I posted was about the guy training our guy in the shcool as to his way of training. You and yell at a person he he makes a mistake you point it politely. This idiot would of been laying on the floor and I would of been gone. So hey corpate jerk learn how to tret people with respect.

we are paid less than the other companies start their drivers

you got out before it got bad now they can't get enough help to run the route they have to call in help to drive.

I posted a public service notice about why speeding tatics were ilegal and it was deleted. It will be reposted on the company site and they can't delete it

I drove for Septran for five years, 2005-2010, and not once was I disciplined without deserving it.  Anyone that feels they're being unjustly treated needs to look within themselves and THEN start asking questions.  I seriously doubt people like Sandy in Yorkville and Kathy in Carol Stream would write up or terminate anyone that didn't deserve it.  If Theresa and Linda are still at their respective offices, they're fair as well.

Mr. J left some pretty big shoes to fill.  Maybe Krapf isn't what everyone thought they would be, but when you're used to dealing with the Jensens nobody will be in the same league.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and man up.  Chances are you screwed up somewhere along the line and are trying to find a scapegoat for your shortcomings.

should gone to the office told them to handle it. If we had a union you would of told your union rep and they would of handled  it. We need a union so this stuff will be handled properly.Call 815 874 6307 and help get the union in to represent us so we get fair treat ment;

I work for Septran. I'm a Driver. I had an aide that had a odor problem. I first complained about it to no avail. I was told to deal with it. Then the students parent complained then they did something about it. The aide did me a favor, so in return I gave her a bath set And some deodorant. The aide acted as if she was happy to get it, so I thought. The next day the Supervisor called me into the office and told me that I had no authority to give someone something for hygiene. She said I should have given them a box of candy. I told her that I didn't mean to be offensive. So now I'm the villian. This is not fair.

everyone please call in and verifiy that you still work at Septran some have different phone numbers or just disconnected we need know you haven't left or gotten fired.

We are trying to do something we are trying to get organized

to get the Union in we need everybody to call get organized. Look what they did for 205 drivers they can help us. Krapf can afford to pay us better. We need $15.00 minumn wage for drivers or close to it. They can help call the numbers publihed before.

While I agree Septran drivers are underpaid, how are you EVER going to change things by sitting around crying about it. Join together and unionize or stop complaining.

are you talking about the SPANGLISH

it would be nice to have a dispatcher that speaks clearly all the time instead of having to get things repeated all the time till you firgure out what they are trying to say

Drivers go to Krapf aquires Septran they leave our message up

time to start a new site for Septran drivers can get out what they want to say with out being discriminated again and their messages deleted stay tuned

We tell the truth and you delete it you aren't for the employees welfare

Someone came up with the bright idea of giving the drivers report cards. We think we should be able to grade the company

I am a parent and this is a terrible company.  I should have known they are unfair to the workers.  They keep your child on the bus for hours.  The people in the office are shiftless and careless.

Its the first of the year we now wait and see how Septran does and we talk to the newbies see how they feel they are being treated then we wait a while and checked later and see how badly they have been treated

We don't join boycott because we don't know if you can find out who we are and fire us we can do a better job if you don't know who we are right now

To sey the record straight it was people working for Septran that fell they are not getting treated right since the company buyout and that they need representation to get treated fairly and to get a fair wage because Septran pay is the lowest in the bus driving industry while Krapf is making good money off of them.

Septran themselves do a good job in stiring the pot in the way they treat their people and we want to help the people that have asked us for help them in getting representataion so they get a voice and not dumped on'

I believe this boycott was started about 5 years ago or more. If Septran is unfair to minorities, why have there been only 8 persons signed on to it and mostly talk about getting a union. If that were true that Septran WAS unfair to minorities, the department of labor would have initiated action against the company. Septran has been in business for 50 years, and there are 8 disgruntled workers with chips on their shoulders?? It seems to me that the crooked union reps are stirring the "soup" to get in and get their country club dues paid.

We want to thank all of you that have called us and the names of those who wish to be called we are making Progress

Working                           

A UNION is needed the wages are the lowest in the bus tranportation industry. Krapf the parent company is a multi million dollar company that can afford to pay better wages. Just figure how much they save on each employee for any type of health insurance. They could afford to give a little of that savings for more wages. More people are getting wages that keep them at or below the proverty level, they can revise wages and come up to the wages that all the other companies pay. They pay their in PA a lot better than they do you.

You need a voice you need the Unoin call 815 874 6307 or 708 485 3200 and find out what we can do for you to gat a voice and better wages in line with what the rest of the bus industry is paying to their mployess

That was a nice party Septran threw today

Krapf is to blame

They have started taking away use of the vechiles for privat use what will they take away next?

Yes it is all about the kids if not you shouldn't be there. The people need that work there are great people but they need a voice to protect them there has been too many thime where a warning or just time off would of been suffficent.

The wages are the lowest in the bus tranportation industry. Krapf the parent company is a multi million dollar company that can afford to pay better wages. Just figure how much they save on each employee for any type of health insurance. They could afford to give a little of that savings for more wages. More people are getting wages that keep them at or below the proverty level, they can revise wages and come up to the wages that all the other companies pay. They pay their in PA a lot better than they do you.

You need a voice you need the Unoin call 815 874 6307 or 708 485 3200 and find out what we can do for you to gat a voice and better wages in line with what the rest of the bus industry is paying to their mployess

That was a nice party Septran threw today

i have been working for septran for 8 yrs ..i love working there ..if you follow the rules of the company you have no problems.I liked it when joan and laura were the and i still like it since sue is there..Sue is a good boss she is fair and she works hard ..i know you dont make that much money there but thats not what im there for im there to help the children get to school safe and i enjoy the children on my bus.this not just a job to me its a responsableity to get the children that ride our buses safetly to school.i have learned alot about driveing since  our saftly classes have started with jeff ...

You will be surprised at how many of us there are that want the UNION

No it means that the employees will get a fair deal by being treated fairly like companies that care about their employees do, by having a system that gives you warning and time off not bonuses and firings. The only thing that you would not get warning for are  leaving a child on board a vechile.

No its not funny if you think this funny yiu have warped sense of humor.

Ok so it is ok to steal something or put someone in the hospital and not be punished they should just give you a warning the first time.  We all know the union will keep our job for as long as we break the rules right that is what they do????  This is just getting funnier and funnier!

What a response has to only come from the office or someone in charge?  Us drivers apparently can't speak or have a thought for ourselve.  I bet if we were pro union with this non employee who is trying to stir trouble then it would be ok.  News flash some of us like our job and the office personal.  Why not tell us who you are and what stake you have in this push for the union?  Are you an employee? Ex employee? Or just a union pusher?  

I worked for them got tired of being screwed over got a job where they treat you fairly and make good money and the union is very good to have as a voice for the worker.

we did a rebuttal to the person from the office and it was deleted this is not fair to the people that read this they do not get both sides. The one is definetely working in the office or maybe in charge.

Check out how much the the union has helped unjust treatment of drivers.

we are people that want to help the drivers that is why we are for the union. we have helped drivers from other groups get decent wages and a voice so that they get fair treament where there is a just system where you will get a warning first then check other businesses this is the fair way to do nowarning is not.

This will probably be deleted to but we will getting the message out over the summer ready for the fall.

I am a driver that lost their bonus, and after re-reading the handbook and the law I am thankful for only loosing my bonus.  Thank you for letting us know there was no favortisim, because I would be very upset if I lost a bonus and others only got a warning.  Good to know this is a fair company!  Not sure who you are but it sounds to me like you are not boycotting this company, it sounds to me like you are just trying to get us drivers to get a union.  Well I for one think if you want a union, you should go work for Illinois Central or First Student or District 205 or Harlem.  It sounds to me like you don't even work for this company, and are just stirring up trouble or have a personal vendeta.  I guess some people just can't take responsability for their actions or lack there of.  Go figure

You may want to check your facts about meaning less paperwork

 Section 458.1030  Driver Requirements   Each day that a school bus is operated the driver shall conduct a pretrip inspection of the mechanical and safety equipment on the bus as prescribed by this Part.  A person other than the driver may perform portions of the pretrip inspection as prescribed by this Part.  (Section 13-115 of the Illinois Vehicle Inspection Law) The pretrip inspection shall be performed each day a school bus is operated to transport students.  If the same driver operates the same bus more than once a day, a new inspection is not required for each subsequent trip.

        If a bus is operated by a different driver for any subsequent trips during the day, an additional pretrip inspection is required.  If a driver is required to complete his/her route in a bus different than the one he/she started the route in, a complete pretrip inspection must be performed on the replacement bus.

The person who performs the inspection must provide his or her signature on the supplemental form that person is responsible for the inspection of the equipment and must provide his or her signature on the Form, along with the date and time the equipment was inspected.  (Writing "Shop" on the signature line is not acceptable.)  That person's signature is valid for a 24 hour period

We have found out there were about 25 involved in the bonus issue some deeserved to lose them some should of just been given a warning

Septran has started to cheat people out of their bonus by checking meaning less stuff that they should of just given a warning over. People you need the Union to stop this.

Krapz is a big corporation that can afford to pay

 a decent wage you are the lowest paid in the bus industry call 815-784-6307 and find out what we can do to help you get a decent wage.

This public notice pertains to the subject matter  of the boycott previous was deleted.

This site like other sites has been used to get our point accross that Septran needs a UNION there is nothing that says that you can't  post other things about Septran problem in management. This site and numerous others have been used by the Union to get the word out to numerous Septran locations about how we can help the workers get more benifits from Krapf the parent company that can very well afford to treat their workers with better benfits and pay because the workers deserve better than they get get. They are lowest paid in the bus industry.

What does so many being in and out of the office in the morning daily have to do with anything?  I like how if you don't get your way you cry foul.  All my post are being deleted, maybe post are being deleted because it has nothing to do with a real reason to boycott a company! Maybe it is being deleted because you are not boycotting this company you are trying to use it to campaign.  

If the company doesn't need you enough then you will be fired when they feel the need. Learn to prepare for the inevitable. Companies that need their employees don't fire for petty reasons.

Since our comments are being deleted all the time we (the drivers) are looking to our own site so this won't happen

In the mean time call 708 485 3200 to find out how the UNION can help you be heard we almost have enough to file oue petition for an election

our last comment was deleted you want us to answer then you delete us we call that a foul

People call for UNION representation now you need it 708-485-3200 and yhis will be deleted to we bet you

These comments are so crazy....The boycott original post is regarding not fair to minorities, yet all the post have nothing to do with that.  Sounds to me like it is a bunch of people that were canned for their mistakes and are trying to make the company look bad.  Funny the company has been in business for well over 30 years.  There have been several attempts to get unions in several locations and everytime they have been voted down.  Why do you think that is?  This company provides an excellent service and most of their drivers are top notch.  If you couldn't make it that is an issue for you and no one else.  Have a nice day!

People you need union respresentation badly, we (union people) found out today that one of the drivers was berated so badly by a person in the garage that she crying and shaking so badly that fellow workers had to calm her down and this not a person that has been there for a short time. It was all  over the person bringing a spare bus back dirty on the outside and in this weather how could they of got it washed and back(yellow bus) and do their routes on time.

This is why you people need a union call 708-485-3200 and learn how you can be respresented so this does not happen again.

If anyone wishes to get representation so that you are not walked on please call 1-708-485-3200 to talk about Union representation

This is a public service announcement letting people know where to call if you want a union to stand up for you

WE have done a rebuttal to this three times and had them deleted so why should we answer anymore

Are you a mechanic or driver of this company?  How would you know if they are getting anything checked?   If you are an employee I would find another job because you seem awful bitter towards this company and doesn't look like there are any  facts for this boycott!!!  Go figure I would bet it is a disgruntled employee with no one to listen to him/her!!!  

we have found out that Septran is now adding GPS to the vechles which is great but they are not having the speedometer certified that they are correct this means if you get written up you need to ask for the speedometer to be certified before signng their little paper admitting your guilt or you can get screwed

we have posted exactly what happened by whom and it was deleted so we aren't going to do it anymore  on this site it must be co controled or why were tghey deleted?

SO what exactly happened? you keep saying the other person started it what did the other person say? what did Nancy reply with? You can't expect people to jump on your boat with you when we have no idea what happened. So give us a breakdown as to what exactly happened. 

I did a rebuttal on  this comment and it was deleted so why am I trying to answer the question you will delete again so we just work to get the union in so they will work to get the union in and  will help. Go a head an delete we won'tr be back on because this site keeps deleting our comment but there are other that don't 

How do you know nothing happened to the first person that commented?  Two wrongs don't make a right!  It is so easy to blame others for our own actions. 

WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE FIRST PERSON THAT MADE THE COMMENT THAT NANCY COMMENTED ON WAS NOT PUNISHED IN ANYWAY THAT WAS NOT RIGHT

I used to work for Septran, I loved working for the company. I had a suburban fully insured and could use it for personal use within a reasonable amount of milage and as long as I put my own gas in it. The staff was great in the office and some of the other drivers. Nancy was fired? hmm... Were any of you a witness to the incident that allegidly got her fired? if not your only hearing one side of the story. If she was fired Unjustly let her hire an attorney and take them to court and she will obviously win. If however she does not win it means she was fired for violating a rule. Just an FYI the whole freedom of speech goes out the door when you are working for a company. So the people who are at work and walk up to you and starting talking about lewd sexual things they want to do to you that would be A OK  right? no, thats sexual harrassment. What if someone walks up and starts dropping racial slurs thats protected right? or someone walks up to you and says they want to kill your family or you. is that protected? oh no thats actually illegal but wait what about freedom of speech? they were just saying it they didn't actually commit the crime,  Leaving a child on a bus? are you that lazy you cant even walk around the enire thing? always missing work always being late. These are all rules you must follow if not you will be terminated I am sure there are more but seriously please people grow up.

or harrassing, threatening bodily harm,

There are not many comments that a person could get fired for.  Most companies would only fire someone for a sexual or racial comment.  So either it was a serious comment or there is more to the story than a comment.  Just saying

ALL THAT WAS DONE WAS THE FACT THAT IT WAS NOT CHILD ENDANGERMENT THAT IT WAS A COMMENT MADE IN THE OFFICE AFTER SOMONE ELSE HAD MADE A COMMENT THAT THE PERSON WAS FIREDASND THAT IT SHOULD OF BEEN A DISIPLENARTY ACTION NOT A FIRING OR BOTH SHOULD OF BEEN FIRED AND IF THIS IS OWNER ACTION THEY MUST BE CONNECTED WITH THE COMPANY

The only way to remove a comment is from the owner of this site.  So according to their policy you must be doing a personal attack or malicious posts see below. 

We do our best to monitor user comments and we have zero tolerance for profanity, personal attacks and other malicious posts.

this bull sh-t posted a rebuttal to the post and it was deleted how can it be answered if what we say is removed

Who said anyone worked for this company?  I have read and read these post and I do not see any facts of someone being fired unjustly. I see a few that complained they were fired for leaving a student on the bus and I can tell you as a parent if anyone left my child on the bus I would be sure they got fired too! I would also push for them to be prosecuted the full extent of the law.   This company transports our babies and if a driver can't make sure they have all students off the bus they need to be fired.  If you feel that is unjust then it is sad that you don't have higher expectations for  the people that are entrusted with the care of our children.    I see someone posted the facts will be coming out from a lawyer and someone else said in this sue-sue world if someone had any proof of being unjustly fired they had options.  Sounds to me like this may just be a place for ex-employees to vent their anger for a company.  No valid information against the company, but if (you) your friend got fired for leaving a student on the bus please by all means contact me on here I would be happy to talk to some so called lawyer and even testify in court on how l think it is a tragedy that more didn't happen to (you) your friend.  I would hope any person with common sense would know leaving a child on the bus is called endangering the life and health of a child and most states have laws to govern this very act.  Now while I understand this may be (you) your friend and you are trying to defend them, however put yourself in the child's position!! 

So keep on complaining because (you) your friend was fired, you are right it is freedom of speech.  And it is my right to say Please Septran keep firing any idiot that would leave a child on the bus.  Please continue to protect our children from these people that think it is ok to leave a child on a bus and still keep their job.  I COMMEND SEPTRAN and would expect any company to do the same!!!!

I agree show us the facts of why you fired Nancy if you can justifi her firing

You must be in the office why not give your version of why Nancy was fired I have seen here it was unjust why do you belive it was not or do you not have the facts

facts are being gathered by a lawyer the truth is on its way

There are a lot of nice people in this world doesn't mean they are above rules.  Voice your opinion all you want fact is that is excatly what it is your opinion.  Come back with FACTS then maybe people will consider this to be a ligitimate complaint for this company.   

Its called freedom of speech they have you have we all have it to speak our minds if you don't like it or I don't like it everybody has a right to speak.

I answered the person that thinks its funny that I can voice mu opinion so all I will say now is the proof is coming delete if you like

I have been watching to now would like to add my two cents to this just to say Nacny was one of the nicest people in the office and I too feel that it wasn't right her being fired the way she and nothing said to the person that caused her to be fired.

Wow people do something wrong and get terminated and it gets brought to a forum like this to be talked about. Too funny in this sue sue world and people will complain here.  If there actually was an unjust done they would have gotten an attorney and sued the company.  I guess when you don't have a leg to stand on you can just post anything you want on a web site with nothing to back it up. This is funny stuff.....See a lot of those Septrans out there and a lot of their drivers are great with and for the kids.  Just our wonderful world allowing people to spout off at the mouth with nothing to back it up......LOL

This should be getting tiresome for you deleting my comments that Nancy was fired injustly and should of been just given disaplenary action in stead of being fired. Let me also point out that I have a right to voice my view of what happened and you have the right to disagree with what I say but deleting what I say is not right, you have the right to rebuttal to what I say so do that but if I have to I will keep putting it back on here but why not say why you remove it? I still talk to quite a few of the drivers so I can still stay up to date on what is going on even tho I no longer work there and I encourage people to voice waht they feel about what is going on, on this site and the other sites

This site was not removed this time but others were some I am posting this on all five sites

Like I said you keep removing my comment that the firing of Nancy was unjust I will keep putting it back it still getss read and on the other siest you can't remove it from!!!

someone removed the comment that they are a couple bucks cheaper than all the other bus companies are paying hourly

most of the changes are dumb they take kids away give them to someone else then you follow them delivering the kids home while you are taking the kid next door home and they send two buses to the same house for two different kids and they end up at the same school dropping off these same kids that they could of easily one bus transported these are the stupid things they do!

For anyone who has been a driver of a school bus in their careers they KNOW that the first few weeks of school is always going to be chaotic.  It is going to have a lot of changes, adds and removals of students due to a kid moving, going up to the next grade = to the next school like Middle or Jr High or Sr High... You get what I am saying.  You just have to be patient until the little stuff gets worked out.  And stop getting mad ot your Dispatchers for it because they are only passing the changes on to you from the District.  People Move, change Day Cares, and even put their kids into full time Kindergarten at the last minute so yes, that adds more changes.  After school programs will tend to make for a few more of the changes as well.  Give people a break while you are on your bus with a map and a log of your stops, your dispatcher meanwhile has yours and how many other routes in from of him or her, and they are dealing with contacting the right drivers, parents, teachers, etc.... for EVERYONE elses changes too! ALL while they are expected to be answering the phones to talk with school representatives, teachers, parents, drivers calling in sick, etc, about routes, and people at their window in the office complaining about their bus or their route or whatever happened to them as they were driving in to work this morning.  Dispatchers do FAR MORE than you realize or give them credit for.  You might think that all they are doing is B.S.'ing in the office all day, but TRY doing their jobs once... I'm sure they started out in a driver's seat before they got to be in their own seats so they know BOTH sides of the Wheel!

they need someone in the office that can plan routes and not do daily changes that cause drivers to go pastb stundents that have been dropped from their routes causing them to drive farther costing septran more money in gas and time and causing headaches to the drivers by having to make the changes and not get paid any extra for their efforts11!

They need a union to help them keep the company from screwing them so they can get a decent wage and benifits

I couldn't remember the exact address of my work so I googled it and in doing so found this website. I thank you for the laugh!! I've worked at Septran in Yorkville for two and a half years and it feels like I've been there longer.  I couldn't believe when my one year anniversary came up because I was so close to everyone it felt as if I'd been there for twenty years!  

Do some people have their flaws, hell yea we all do. But the people I work with would never do anything to endanger a child and I can't help but laugh at the claims!  I love my job, my boss Sandy is amazing.  

~Septran Yorkville terminal employee

About 4 yrs ago I was heading east on 63rd in Downers Grove from 355.  A white van about 6 vehicles ahead of me was poking along at about 25 MPH.  The speed limit there was 45 MPH.  As you would expect, one by one all the vehicles behind the white van were taking their opportunity to pass the Slow Poke.  When it was my turn to pass, I signaled, accelerated, and began to pass on the left.  When I was almost passed the white van, the female driver "PUNCHED IT" and began to race me.  I eventually got over to the right in front of the white van and turned right at the next light, because I missed my intended turn when the white van wouldn't let me over or pass.  She basically turned it into a race/contest.  I doubled back and went to the gas station I was trying to get to.  With in seconds, the white van pulled up at the same gas station.  and then a few seconds after that my cell phone rang.  I drive a marked vehicle for my company.  My coordinator said that this woman had called and complained about my driving.  I told him the story and we had a laugh about it.  When the van drove off I saw that it was a SEPTRAN.  The woman was still ranting and raving as she drove off.  When I found out that SEPTRAN transports special needs passengers, I was shocked that this woman was so agressive behind the wheel.  She even left her route to persue me.  I hope she didn't have any passengers or at least if she did, I hope they complained.

the initiator of this boycott sounds like he/she spent some time riding a septran to the "special school" as a kid.

i think this whole forum is a f-cking joke. all this is about is old former employees who either couldnt hack the job or wasnt compitent enuff to hold on to the easiest job in the world!!!! a monkey can do this job. if this job wasnt easy for you than you should just stay home and collect disability because your  too stupid to work. septran is one of the better companys out there and pay the most out of all other competition ... yes there should be consequences for those ignorant drivers that did leave kids on buses,and there was . it is not septrans fault as a whole if some lazy or  overweight sack of sh-t or just some non talented a-ssclown doesnt check for students! it unfortunatley happens at all bus companies at some point.. so i say hooray for septran... it is a good company and the grass is not greener on other side if your a moron.

I worked for Septran a couple of years ago.  I am Africa American. I needed a job and I got hire immediately.  I am very grateful  for having the opportunity to work!! I understand there maybe some problems with the Company and maybe some of their policies however, I can't complain about them because they gave me a job when I needed one. There was no racism that I was aware of when I worked there. And I got extra routes when I ask.  I also got the bonuses for washing the bus, and perfect attendance.  If you do your job to the best of your ability and be kind you should not have any problems with any Company.  However, if you are leaving children on the Bus, coming to work late, not picking up students, arguing with the parents, missing days from work you can't expect to keep a job anywhere. Driving a school bus is hard, not so much the physical driving, but the conditions, weather, traffic, bobbleheads on the cellphones, etc.  And no matter what company you go to there not going to pay much more than Septran unless you work for the School Districts driving a bus then you will get benefits like dental, health, vacation, etc. I can only say good things about Septran and the Manager Scott over at the Bloomington Office.

We all know that Septran employees are not professional at all. The company has nothing to do with it. It's the people inside the office that needs to be let go because nothing they do is on a professional level nothing. Don't care who don't like it. I know what I've been through heard n seen with my own eyes.

It is your duty to walk thru the busafter your last stop to assure that NO CHILD HAS BEEN LEFT ON YOUR BUS.....if you could not do that. YOU SHOULD NOT BE WORKING FOR ANY BUS COMPANY..........................that is incompetence, and YOU WERE GUILTY of the offense.........wouldnt want you at my bus company,oh, thats right,youre not.........

This is the dumbest website, I have ever seen.......if you couldnt cut the mustard, you DID NOT belong at Septran

I have been working for Septran for almost 7 years now and you guys are just making excuses.

You signed up for the job knowing that you would tranporting kids with disabilities. this WHOLE FIELD is underpaid.

You don't like it? then JUST LEAVE. nobody is forcing you to stay.

Don't just sit on your computer making false accusations and poor assumptions.

My Father is in Septran Leadership, so I know whats going on. This shouldnt be one of them.

you should be ashamed of yourselves.

If all you say is the truth why not include your name and or credentials????  Every company is going to have discruntalled employees, first you say it is unfair to minorities, but you don't say how it is unfair to minorities?  Not once did you say what they do specificly to minorities to make them unfair.  Ok on to the next one....So you left a kid on your bus sound asleep....no big deal that is of course because it is not your child......if it had been someone that left your child asleep on the bus, I bet you would have been haveing a fit.  I hear in February drivers signed a paper stating they understood checking their bus was their responsibility and it would mean immediate termination if a child gets left on which means you didn't properly check your bus.  Are you saying after this rule went into effect?  The driver signed the paper and still left a child on the bus and now works in the office? RIGHT!!!! To the third complaint...you mean in your district your kids don't move up in grades and go to different schools?  Where I come from students move from one house to another,  they switch babysitters, students move up in grades there by switching schools.  How could routes stay the same every year?  As far as a raise, well some people feel lucky just to have a job.  There are a lot of companies that are reducing pay by 5% or more.  If you don't like your job go get a new one.  Funny how any nut can make accusations yet not have to produce proof of their accusations. 

Signed a former ROCKFORD SEPTRAN DRIVER

Ive worked for septran for four years now. We have never recieved a single raise and there excuse is every time a child is left on the bus or a driver gets into an accident everyone has to suffer because they have to pay out. thats abunch of b.s. it should be determined on personnel performance. Another issue is senority thats a crock to, they let us come in with all our driving time so you tell me how someone who has only been driving for a couple years is getting 8 hous a day while drivers with 10 plus years got dropped down to 4-6 hours a day? They always ask at end of each year if you want same routes for the next year very few get them back and if you are lucky enough to get back your routes and hours it's because you kiss to much ass

I agree that a child left sleeping on the bus deserves repremanding. I had a child fall asleep on my bus. I never left my bus. I went to my next stop arriving early so I did paper work waiting to pick up my next student. The child was never put in a harmful situation. When another driver is not reprimanded for leaving a sleeping child on her bus for three hours and another driver left a sleeping child for approximately forty minutes alone once again. Again not reprimanded! I was fired never leaving that child alone, two other drivers left a child alone on they're bus nothing done? One now works in the office?? Ridiculous whining. I think not!!

You may want to read the article written in the Chicago Breaking News about the Septran driver who was fired and charged with a misdemeaner for leaving a 4 year old on the bus while she went shopping. Police Sgt. Tom Davis states the driver was negligent in her duties as a school bus driver for failing to properly inspecting her bus. Ask the 4 year old if that was unfair!

This seems like people whining about having consequences for actions that might be detrimental to the company.  When a student falls asleep on the bus, misses school, and is not even noticed, there should be a consequence for that.  As the driver of the bus, you are held responsible for every student.  If a student is forgotten and left...something needs to be done.

The complaint about hours being raised from three hours of work a day to seven is ridiculous as well.  When you are hired for a job, you are responsible to work the hours you are scheduled for.  If you don't like the hours, quit the job. 

The company cannot be responsible for the actions of every one of it's employees. At some point the employees need to be responsible for their own actions.  What driver on the road today does not talk on the cell phone every so often?  As long as there aren't students on the bus, there should not be a problem.  Lots of complaints that don't really have anything to do with the company as a whole, but with individual drivers.

Keep your personal complaints to yourself.  If you don't like your job, leave.  This decision is not as difficult as one might think.  Don't attack the company because you don't like the job.

Septran employees are not given enough time between picking up students. They are under paid for the driving and paper work that they have to do. Septran of Rockford has a new supervisor that is completely clueless. I drove for this company. Was wrote up when a driver tried to cut me off. The passenger called me filthy names, gave me the finger and told me to pull over into a shopping center so she could fight me. Ignoring her I went back to the bus company and was wrote up for misuse of a vehichle. Obviously the supervisor took the side of some woman whose husband had road rage and the woman that called in was worse than he was. I am to keep a daily log of my bus which I always did. At Christmas my bus was left at the company for two weeks. On return mysteriously my daily log book was missing. I always wrote my time and names and milage for each student and school in a notebook. Even though I was able to produce a new log for the end of the month I was wrote up again. Was fired when a ten year old boy fell asleep. I got out at the school looked in the windows he was way up against the side I was looking in so I missed him the aides at school also missed him. Never leaving my bus I went to my next stop for my next school and waited because I had three students that had called in sick so I was a little early so I did some paper work while waiting and then picked up my next student. When I looked up the student that had fallen asleep was sitting up. I immediately called in let Septran know what had happened and took him to school. I already had one student on for my next school and one more to pick up. Was told to wait where I was they sent another bus and told me to come in to the office and fired me. They have a girl that still works there that left a sleeping child on the bus for three hours while she went to McDonalds. Went home and then back to the bus company. Then found the student. Nothing was done about it she now works in the office!!! If your not a suck up and not in there click you don't stand a chance.

they rip everyone off. they have drivers leaving their kids in the buses alone, talking on cell phone while fueling,talking on cell while driving